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Wheel upgrades
With the the Griffith 4.x Oz split rims,5 spoke and
500 7 spoke Estorils becoming rarer to find some owners have taken to
replacing the complete set. The are a few reasons why owners would want
to change them. Damaged,scuffed or due to lack of maintenance and they
are looking very worn/tired. The desire to change the look of the car,
and to add larger wheels for better grip and the opportunity to add
larger brakes.
There are a number of things to consider when changing
the wheels, like getting the correct offset, wheel arch/wishbone clearance
to name a couple. There is a good section covering this in Steve Heaths
"The TVR Griffith and Chimeara" which will also help with
choosing the rolling radius of the new tyre you may be putting on your
new wheel.
Hopefully you will find the information and pics
off owners who have changed theirs interesting and if you feel you could
add to the page feel free to mail
me
There is a factory upgrade option to change the ford
4 stud hub for a 5 stud hub to take the 16" Spiders seen in some
of the pictures below, although at the moment I am led to Believe there
is quite a long waiting list for these.
TVR Power do some 4 stud wheels, www.tvrpower.co.uk
and Motion TVR too, www.tvrmotion.co.uk
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Richard Branch's Racelines
In 2000 I replaced the wheels with Raceline RL-7 items similar
to those fitted at the time to the Cerbera 4.5 and early Tuscans.
I chose Raceline as I wanted to keep a TVR look to the car. The
Griffith has 15 front and 16 rear wheels and after
some deliberation I went for 17 fronts and 18 rears
to retain the nose down stance of the Griffith, I think it works.
At one moment I considered going for 16" and 17" but
then I thought "In for a penny in for a pound."
Replacing wheels seems commonplace with owners these
days so there is plenty of information available and dealers offering
conversions but a couple of years ago it was pretty much trial
and error. The first thing to check is the rolling radius of the
new tyre size, if you stick to the same radius you should
avoid issues with wheel arch clearance and speedometer error.
Steve Heath has a useful tyre size calculator on his web site,
look in the FAQ section .www.tvrbooks.co.uk/
The next thing of to check is that the brand of
tyre you select is available in the size you want, not always
the case! I stuck to Bridgestone SO2 Pole Positions and as I do
not have PAS chose 215 40 x 17 for the fronts and 255 35 x 18
at the rear. I would have gone for a 245 rear but they were not
available in 18 from the Bridgestone, Toyo do offer the
Proxes in a 245 35x18 so I may try these next time.
The Griffith wheels have a 4-stud 108mm p.c.d. (Pitch
circle diameter) fitting, which is a Ford pattern, so doesn't
represent a problem, however the issue is to establish the correct
offset, not as easy as it may sound! I called Portfield who told
me 35mm all round, just to double-check I called the factory and
they confirmed this, they were however both wrong and this caused
a few issues later. My advice would be to remove a front and rear
wheel from the car and measure it, I did this afterwards and the
fronts were 25mm and the rears 37.5mm. Incidentally the inside
of my rims were marked 25mm on the front and 35mm on the rears,
strange eh?
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I chose 8 width rims and (erroneously thanks to TVR) went
for a 40mm offset front and rear, in the end I wound up with 6mm
spacers at the front to stop the wheels rubbing on the lower wishbones
and 3mm spacers at the rear. A common question is, how does it
handle with wider tyres & bigger rims, well to be honest I
really don't think the ride is compromised and the steering feels
slightly lighter if anything.
Finally I thought Id be clever and get four alloy wheel
center caps from TVR to finish off the new wheels. They duly arrived
but didnt fit, seems the Cerbera has a 50mm centre bore
to its wheels whereas the Griffith has 45mm so the caps
were 5mm too large in diameter! Not to be deterred I sliced the
backs off my new TVR caps, cut the flanges from the blue anodised
jobs supplied by Raceline, Araldited them in place and bobs-your-uncle
they fitted. I put a dab of silicone sealant on the back to save
me losing them, stuck on the TVR centre badges and job done! Its
all rather complicated but it works, looks good and makes room
for my 315mm brake discs.
Inside rim of standard rear wheel showing the marking ET35 (the
offset in mm) and 71/2J16H2 (width and diameter)
See more or Richards Griffith "Grizzly"on his site
www.greenbear.org.uk
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Mark Chipperfields Griffith with The "official"
factory spider conversion and Brake upgrade. |
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Pete and Sharon Best's old Griffith with Raceline
17" anthracite wheels of which I dont think can be purchased
anymore |
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Simon Roper's beautiful beast with 17" Technomagnesis
Detroit's with Toyo Proxes F 215/40/17 and R 255/40/17 with
Brake upgrade F 4 pot AP/ Hi Spec 315mm disc R 300mm + existing
calipers. |
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Anthony's 4.0ltr Griffith with 16 spiders fitted all round,Tyre
sizes - 225/45/16s fronts, 245/45/16s rears.
Look out for Brake mods page comming shortly with info about
Anthony's Cerbera AP 4-pot calipers and AP 300 x 28mm Grooved
and drilled vented disc with alloy mount bells front. 273 x 20mm
Grooved and drilled vented disc rear and how he went about
completing the mod.
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Gerjo Timmerije has 17/16" Technomagnesio wheels with Toyo
T1-S/R boots on along with Hispec 4 pot callipers with 310/300
mm disks
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Antony Pattisons 4.2 ltr Griffith with 16" Spider conversion,
engineered by Himself.(Couldn't wait for the factory)
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